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צלילים של רוחות EVP #1 - "the baby is staying "

The EVPs:       Newest EVPs at the bottom of the list

EVP #1 - "the baby is staying "

EVP #2 -  "he's coming up the stairs"

EVP #4 - "papsie"

EVP #5 - A dog named Toy visiting his owners, read the story here

EVP # 6 - Toy Again, with the owners voice in the back

EVP # 7 - "get out" - courtesy of PRCRI

EVP # 9 - 'Mommy'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 12 - 'ma-ma'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 13 - 'go out there'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 14 - 'It's happening again' - Old Mission Cemetery in San Juan Capistrano - by yorick5@home.com

EVP # 15- 'We love you' - sent in by K45PER@aol.com

EVP # 16- 'My mother's 95' - recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 17- Investigator asked 'who's here?' during an EVP recording attempt and a voice says “not me”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR 

EVP # 18- In the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked "“is anybody here?” and recorded a man’s voice that says “no, we’re not”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 19In the catacombs When getting ready to leave the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked “do you want to say goodbye?”, a voice answers “no”.    Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 20As the Investigator was recording audio in the Officers Quarters of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia she felt someone touching her ear. She also saw a woman with dirty blonde hair in a light blue dress. She obtained EVP of woman’s voice saying “Don’t come”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 21In Casement 5 of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia you hear the investigator ask on the recording “Who are you?” and a male voice answers “Jean Baptiste”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 22The investigator was recording audio in the Torpedo Casemate of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia and he recorded a female voice saying “Come my children”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 23- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked “Can you tell me your name?” A voice saying "no" seems to overlap the end of his voice.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 24- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked if anyone wanted to speak out loud and captured a voice that says “yes". 
Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   

EVP # 25- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at Ft Mifflin. While recording on the laptop computer he captured a whispery male voice that says “Get back”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 26- The investigator recorded a voice that seems to be that of a sentry in casemate #5 of Ft Mifflin. There is a loud thump, like a boot or rifle butt slapping the floor and then a man’s voice says “Who goes there?”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR. 

EVP #27-
During an audio recording attempt to record EVPs, Investigator Kurkis ask "what is your name?". He obtained an "A" class EVP answer saying "David".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #28- Investigator Juliano was attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a voice saying what sounds like "what's that" or "what's up".   Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #29- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a man's voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #30- Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private building.  He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".  Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #31- During the initial walk through ofaprivate home, Investigator Kurkis recorded what sounds like someone saying “Grandma".  Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #32- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a wmona saying "I'm Sylvia".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #33- Investigator DiLucio started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. She obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. She asked 'Is there a message you'd like us to pass along?' a voice responds saying "yeah".   Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #34- Investigator Wassall started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying “Is Zoey over there?”.   Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #35- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "not me" or "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06


EVP #36- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by
SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #37- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in the Powder Magazine. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "out of here".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #38- Investigator Jenkins records a class A EVP in a private house that says "I love you".   Recorded on an
experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #39- Investigator Burdash records a class B EVP in a private house - You can hear Investigator Burdash comment on the hardwood floors in the dining room and then a woman says "thank you".   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #40- Using a Multitrack Recorder in a private house: A series of whispers then “here”, using sound analysis software, this is – “my friends are there, I'm here,” 9:43:36 (microphone 4, dining room)  
Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06
  

EVP #1 - "the baby is staying "The EVPs:       Newest EVPs at the bottom of the list

EVP #1 - "the baby is staying "

EVP #2 -  "he's coming up the stairs"

EVP #4 - "papsie"

EVP #5 - A dog named Toy visiting his owners, read the story here

EVP # 6 - Toy Again, with the owners voice in the back

EVP # 7 - "get out" - courtesy of PRCRI

EVP # 9 - 'Mommy'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 12 - 'ma-ma'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 13 - 'go out there'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 14 - 'It's happening again' - Old Mission Cemetery in San Juan Capistrano - by yorick5@home.com

EVP # 15- 'We love you' - sent in by K45PER@aol.com

EVP # 16- 'My mother's 95' - recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 17- Investigator asked 'who's here?' during an EVP recording attempt and a voice says “not me”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR 

EVP # 18- In the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked "“is anybody here?” and recorded a man’s voice that says “no, we’re not”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 19In the catacombs When getting ready to leave the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked “do you want to say goodbye?”, a voice answers “no”.    Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 20As the Investigator was recording audio in the Officers Quarters of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia she felt someone touching her ear. She also saw a woman with dirty blonde hair in a light blue dress. She obtained EVP of woman’s voice saying “Don’t come”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 21In Casement 5 of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia you hear the investigator ask on the recording “Who are you?” and a male voice answers “Jean Baptiste”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 22The investigator was recording audio in the Torpedo Casemate of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia and he recorded a female voice saying “Come my children”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 23- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked “Can you tell me your name?” A voice saying "no" seems to overlap the end of his voice.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 24- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked if anyone wanted to speak out loud and captured a voice that says “yes". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 25- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at Ft Mifflin. While recording on the laptop computer he captured a whispery male voice that says “Get back”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 26- The investigator recorded a voice that seems to be that of a sentry in casemate #5 of Ft Mifflin. There is a loud thump, like a boot or rifle butt slapping the floor and then a man’s voice says “Who goes there?”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR. 

EVP #27-
During an audio recording attempt to record EVPs, Investigator Kurkis ask "what is your name?". He obtained an "A" class EVP answer saying "David".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #28- Investigator Juliano was attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a voice saying what sounds like "what's that" or "what's up".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #29- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a man's voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #30- Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private building.  He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #31- During the initial walk through ofaprivate home, Investigator Kurkis recorded what sounds like someone saying “Grandma".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #32- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a wmona saying "I'm Sylvia".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #33- Investigator DiLucio started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. She obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. She asked 'Is there a message you'd like us to pass along?' a voice responds saying "yeah".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #34- Investigator Wassall started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying “Is Zoey over there?”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #35- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "not me" or "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06


EVP #36- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #37- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in the Powder Magazine. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "out of here".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #38- Investigator Jenkins records a class A EVP in a private house that says "I love you".   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #39- Investigator Burdash records a class B EVP in a private house - You can hear Investigator Burdash comment on the hardwood floors in the dining room and then a woman says "thank you".   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #40- Using a Multitrack Recorder in a private house: A series of whispers then “here”, using sound analysis software, this is – “my friends are there, I'm here,” 9:43:36 (microphone 4, dining room)   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #2 -  "he's coming up the stairs"

EVP #4 - "papsie"

EVP #5 - A dog named Toy visiting his owners, read the story here

EVP # 6 - Toy Again, with the owners voice in the back

EVP # 7 - "get out" - courtesy of PRCRI

EVP # 9 - 'Mommy'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 12 - 'ma-ma'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 13 - 'go out there'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 14 - 'It's happening again' - Old Mission Cemetery in San Juan Capistrano - by yorick5@home.com

EVP # 15- 'We love you' - sent in by K45PER@aol.com

EVP # 16- 'My mother's 95' - recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 17- Investigator asked 'who's here?' during an EVP recording attempt and a voice says “not me”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR 

EVP # 18- In the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked "“is anybody here?” and recorded a man’s voice that says “no, we’re not”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 19In the catacombs When getting ready to leave the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked “do you want to say goodbye?”, a voice answers “no”.    Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 20As the Investigator was recording audio in the Officers Quarters of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia she felt someone touching her ear. She also saw a woman with dirty blonde hair in a light blue dress. She obtained EVP of woman’s voice saying “Don’t come”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 21In Casement 5 of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia you hear the investigator ask on the recording “Who are you?” and a male voice answers “Jean Baptiste”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 22The investigator was recording audio in the Torpedo Casemate of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia and he recorded a female voice saying “Come my children”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 23- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked “Can you tell me your name?” A voice saying "no" seems to overlap the end of his voice.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 24- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked if anyone wanted to speak out loud and captured a voice that says “yes". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 25- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at Ft Mifflin. While recording on the laptop computer he captured a whispery male voice that says “Get back”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 26- The investigator recorded a voice that seems to be that of a sentry in casemate #5 of Ft Mifflin. There is a loud thump, like a boot or rifle butt slapping the floor and then a man’s voice says “Who goes there?”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR. 

EVP #27-
During an audio recording attempt to record EVPs, Investigator Kurkis ask "what is your name?". He obtained an "A" class EVP answer saying "David".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #28- Investigator Juliano was attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a voice saying what sounds like "what's that" or "what's up".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #29- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a man's voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #30- Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private building.  He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #31- During the initial walk through ofaprivate home, Investigator Kurkis recorded what sounds like someone saying “Grandma". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #32- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a wmona saying "I'm Sylvia".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #33- Investigator DiLucio started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. She obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. She asked 'Is there a message you'd like us to pass along?' a voice responds saying "yeah".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #34- Investigator Wassall started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying “Is Zoey over there?”.  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #35- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "not me" or "help me".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06


EVP #36- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #37- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in the Powder Magazine. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "out of here".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #38- Investigator Jenkins records a class A EVP in a private house that says "I love you".  
Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #39- Investigator Burdash records a class B EVP in a private house - You can hear Investigator Burdash comment on the hardwood floors in the dining room and then a woman says "thank you".   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #40- Using a Multitrack Recorder in a private house: A series of whispers then “here”, using sound analysis software, this is – “my friends are there, I'm here,” 9:43:36 (microphone 4, dining room)  
Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #2 -  "he's coming up the stairs"

EVP #4 - "papsie"

EVP #5 - A dog named Toy visiting his owners, read the story here

EVP # 6 - Toy Again, with the owners voice in the back

EVP # 7 - "get out" - courtesy of PRCRI

EVP # 9 - 'Mommy'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 12 - 'ma-ma'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 13 - 'go out there'  - recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 14 - 'It's happening again' - Old Mission Cemetery in San Juan Capistrano - by yorick5@home.com

EVP # 15- 'We love you' - sent in by K45PER@aol.com

EVP # 16- 'My mother's 95' - recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 17- Investigator asked 'who's here?' during an EVP recording attempt and a voice says “not me”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR 

EVP # 18- In the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked "“is anybody here?” and recorded a man’s voice that says “no, we’re not”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 19In the catacombs When getting ready to leave the catacombs of the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City, NJ the investigator asked “do you want to say goodbye?”, a voice answers “no”.    Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 20As the Investigator was recording audio in the Officers Quarters of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia she felt someone touching her ear. She also saw a woman with dirty blonde hair in a light blue dress. She obtained EVP of woman’s voice saying “Don’t come”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR

EVP # 21In Casement 5 of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia you hear the investigator ask on the recording “Who are you?” and a male voice answers “Jean Baptiste”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 22The investigator was recording audio in the Torpedo Casemate of Ft. Mifflin in Philadelphia and he recorded a female voice saying “Come my children”.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.

EVP # 23- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked “Can you tell me your name?” A voice saying "no" seems to overlap the end of his voice.   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 24- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs. He asked if anyone wanted to speak out loud and captured a voice that says “yes". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 25- The investigator started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at Ft Mifflin. While recording on the laptop computer he captured a whispery male voice that says “Get back”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   

EVP # 26- The investigator recorded a voice that seems to be that of a sentry in casemate #5 of Ft Mifflin. There is a loud thump, like a boot or rifle butt slapping the floor and then a man’s voice says “Who goes there?”.  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR. 

EVP #27-
During an audio recording attempt to record EVPs, Investigator Kurkis ask "what is your name?". He obtained an "A" class EVP answer saying "David".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #28- Investigator Juliano was attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a voice saying what sounds like "what's that" or "what's up".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #29- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the GAR Civil War Museum in Philadelphia, PA.  He obtained a "B" class EVP of a man's voice saying "help me".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #30- Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private building.  He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #31- During the initial walk through ofaprivate home, Investigator Kurkis recorded what sounds like someone saying “Grandma". 
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #32- Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a wmona saying "I'm Sylvia".  Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #33- Investigator DiLucio started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. She obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. She asked 'Is there a message you'd like us to pass along?' a voice responds saying "yeah".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #34- Investigator Wassall started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in a private house. He obtained an "A" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying “Is Zoey over there?”.  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #35- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Jenkins started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "not me" or "help me".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06


EVP #36- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs at the Westside Sallyport. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "help me".  
Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #37- At Ft Mifflin in Philadelphia, PA, Investigator Kurkis started an audio recording attempting to record EVPs in the Powder Magazine. He obtained an "B" class EVP during this recording session. It's a voice saying "out of here".   Recorded on an investigation by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #38- Investigator Jenkins records a class A EVP in a private house that says "I love you".  
Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #39- Investigator Burdash records a class B EVP in a private house - You can hear Investigator Burdash comment on the hardwood floors in the dining room and then a woman says "thank you".   Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06

EVP #40- Using a Multitrack Recorder in a private house: A series of whispers then “here”, using sound analysis software, this is – “my friends are there, I'm here,” 9:43:36 (microphone 4, dining room)  
Recorded on an experiemnt by SJGR.   New 6-1-06
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